Occasional Reader 3/27/2020 5:36:47 AM

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Good morning.

Zionist pills headed toward US for okupayshun!!!!

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2020/03/26/israeli-firm-donates-to-u-s-ten-million-pills-touted-by-trump-for-coronavirus-treatment/

Occasional Reader 3/27/2020 5:40:22 AM

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And I assume most of you have seen this by now, not this particular article necessarily but the news behind it:

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-man-spooked-world-coronavirus-model-walks-back-prediction/

Will it indeed turn out that this was all unnecessary panic?

vxbush 3/27/2020 6:20:34 AM

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In #1 Occasional Reader said: Good morning. Zionist pills headed toward US for okupayshun!!!! https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2020/03/26/israeli-firm-donates-to-u-s-ten-million-pills-touted-by-trump-for-coronavirus-treatment/

And yet I'm hearing stories about government folks *not* wanting to allow this medicine. Either it's Nevada, where the governor is blocking access to the drug, to another state (Michigan, I think) where the governor is saying it will prosecute any doctor who prescribes this drug. The Washington Post calls it an "untested" drug, which is true in only the most official sense of not having double-blind studies to prove its efficacy. Does the Post really want us to do proper double-blind trials where people might die without the drug? Isn't that considered unethical? 

In what rational universe is it reasonable to stop promising drugs from being used by doctors? I can only interpret this as Democrat leaders wanting the US to suffer at all costs. The level of insanity is itself insane. 

Occasional Reader 3/27/2020 6:26:07 AM

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In #3 vxbush said: an "untested" drug

Chloroquine has been in use since the 1940s.  its risks and side-effects are very well known.  True, its efficacy as COVID-19 prophylaxis and/or treatment is as yet not fully tested; but the risks related to the drug (which, IIRC, are overall low) are known.

vxbush 3/27/2020 6:27:35 AM

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In #2 Occasional Reader said: Will it indeed turn out that this was all unnecessary panic?

There are some interesting charts at Sarah Hoyt's blog from a reader showing how this year is comparing to previous years. They are *very* interesting. 

buzzsawmonkey 3/27/2020 6:48:38 AM

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In #2 Occasional Reader said: Will it indeed turn out that this was all unnecessary panic?

Dress rehearsal for the next stampede over "climate change."

lucius septimius 3/27/2020 7:18:49 AM

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China's where it came from

And it sure did come

I hope I'll stay virus free

And they don't know how to stop it and it sure won't stop

Let's hope it doesn't get to me.

They give me Bat Scratch Fever

Bat Scratch Fever

I got it in a market where the sold fancy food

I got it from a big bowl of soup

I went up to the waiter and he got me some more.

Now i cough like I've got the croup.

It gave me Bat Scratch Fever

Bat Scratch Fever

It's pretty dangerous, it ain't no fun

You know you've got it when you cough up your lungs

It makes my body weakin', weakin', 

And I can't leave my sick bed

They tell me that chloroquine will make it go away

Got some for my fish tank last spring

But then those dumbfucks in Ar'zona drank a bunch and checked out

Guess their Coke weren't the real thing

Save me from that Bat Scratch Fever

Bat Scratch Fever

I got a bad Bat Scratch Fever

Bat Scratch Fever

buzzsawmonkey 3/27/2020 7:25:20 AM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 7:

HA!!!!

Kosh's Shadow 3/27/2020 8:28:17 AM

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In #2 Occasional Reader said: Will it indeed turn out that this was all unnecessary panic?

Some possibilities

1. There is something they aren't telling us, like it hides from the immune system and comes back

2. The media is hyping it to make Trump look bad. Possibly with China's support.

3. China's plan to ruin the rest of the world's economy.

Any other suggestions?

Kosh's Shadow 3/27/2020 8:30:19 AM

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In #2 Occasional Reader said: Will it indeed turn out that this was all unnecessary panic?

The science is settled, you COVID-19 denier!!!////

doppelganglander 3/27/2020 8:45:16 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 9:

I have not ruled out the possibility that the Wuhan facility makes bioweapons and COVID-19 accidentally escaped into the wild. Funny how the lab is so close to the wet market, isn't it? I'm not promoting the idea because it really does sound nutty, and I don't believe it was deliberate. Just makes you wonder what we'll find out months or years from now.

Kosh's Shadow 3/27/2020 8:51:18 AM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 11:

I don't think COVID-19 was developed in a lab, but genes from a lab developed virus could easily combine with a virus in the wild, if someone was infected by both.

JCM 3/27/2020 9:12:28 AM

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Virus are genetically engineered in the lab all the time.

The are the "tool" used to manipulate DNA sequences. Say take a drought resistant gene from one plant and put it into another.

As you know DNA is a amino acid sequence, there are enzymes that cut DNA at a specific sequence. Find a sequence before and after the drought resistant sequence and cut it out. That strand of DNA using other enzymes can be inserted in a empty virus shell that can bind to the target plant cells.

That's a high level look at the process.

Virus are commonly manipulated in labs doing all kinds of research.

Insulin is made that way, take the DNA sequence that produces insulin, stick in a virus, which then sticks in in yeast. So now we can "brew" insulin. The yeast instead of making alcohol makes insulin.

Vaccines for a virus like COVID-19 are made by keeping the shell which has the proteins which bind to the human cell, and neutralizing the RNA inside so the immune system recognizes the shell and builds immunity without having the "pathogen" part.

As to the conspiracy theories? I don't buy 'em, but they have a grain of possibility.

Occasional Reader 3/27/2020 9:53:38 AM

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In #9 Kosh's Shadow said: Any other suggestions?

Well, sure, the more Occam's Razor-ish ones, along the lines of "yes, this is a serious pandemic, but a combination of hysterical fear and mixed political motives are causing pretty much everyone to overreact." 

Syrah 3/27/2020 9:53:54 AM

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Fun times. 

It is Friday.

It is raining.

Syrah 3/27/2020 10:01:04 AM

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China, being a dictatorship that is comfortable disappearing people that embarrass the party, has poor internal communication. 

They lie to other as much as they lie to us.

They May have feared it was a weapon that was inadvertently released from the lab and freaked out. It may have just been a bad virus that was the result of unsanitary conditions in their “wet” markets.

Both sources would be embarrassing for the CCP.

They may not know the truth of it even now.

China is a terror state, and it could be terrible for a person to speak the truth. 

Occasional Reader 3/27/2020 10:12:59 AM

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In #16 Syrah said: Both sources would be embarrassing for the CCP.

Not to worry, they've got friends in high places who are hard at work for them reshaping the narrative. 

JCM 3/27/2020 10:16:22 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 17:

NYSimes in bed with Commies since 1931.

buzzsawmonkey 3/27/2020 10:18:21 AM

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Syrah 3/27/2020 10:40:21 AM

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I am hearing that the Bill has passed through Congress. 

Trump to sign it soon. My guess would be today. 

Syrah 3/27/2020 10:49:40 AM

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buzzsawmonkey 3/27/2020 11:12:29 AM

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In #21 Syrah said: If we all stay home and collect government checks, who will make anything that we can buy with our YangBucks?

Why, China, of course.

lucius septimius 3/27/2020 12:51:54 PM

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Occasional Reader 3/27/2020 1:03:16 PM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 23:

But would cows really know to (correctly) say "fewer" rather than "less"?  I'm skeptical.

vxbush 3/27/2020 1:10:51 PM

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JCM 3/27/2020 1:22:29 PM

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3 major players in trying to do broadband satellite.

Elon Musk - Starlink

Airbus plus investors - OneWeb

Amazon - Kuiper

JCM 3/27/2020 1:23:18 PM

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OneWeb collapses after SoftBank funding talks fall through

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OneWeb, the satellite internet start-up, is preparing for bankruptcy and to lay off most of its staff, after failing to secure new funding from investors including its biggest backer SoftBank, according to people familiar with the situation.  The company could file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the US as soon as Friday, according to people involved in the preparations, putting most of its more than 500 employees at risk of losing their jobs.  OneWeb had been in talks with Softbank to raise as much as $2bn in fresh funding before the coronavirus outbreak roiled financial markets, according to people familiar with the discussions. 

vxbush 3/27/2020 1:41:28 PM

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Reply to JCM in 27:

Which one was Bill Gates affiliated with? He had been talking about world-wide satellite internet back in the 90's. 

JCM 3/27/2020 1:53:07 PM

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Reply to vxbush in 28:

Teledesic - died in 2002.

vxbush 3/27/2020 2:04:33 PM

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In #29 JCM said: Teledesic - died in 2002.

I did see that Musk had satellites in the air, right? He seems to be the one farthest along. 

JCM 3/27/2020 2:53:28 PM

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Reply to vxbush in 30:

Yeah, Starlink has had 8 launches, 3 mostly test launches.

Consumer availability 2021?

vxbush 3/27/2020 3:15:36 PM

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In #31 JCM said: Yeah, Starlink has had 8 launches, 3 mostly test launches. Consumer availability 2021?

It takes a year to test multiple satellites? Whoa. 

JCM 3/27/2020 3:31:04 PM

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Reply to vxbush in 32:

They need a few more launches also.

Low earth satellites don't have a lot of earth coverage, so you need a lot.

Kuiper is planning on over 3,300 satellites.

You've got uplink, downlink and interlink between satellites. Then handoff from one satellite to the next.

A lot going on to check out.

Occasional Reader 3/27/2020 3:50:12 PM

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In #30 vxbush said: satellites in the air

If so, the satellites are in big trouble!

Syrah 3/27/2020 3:54:01 PM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 34:

it would be a real drag. 

JCM 3/27/2020 3:56:58 PM

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Reply to Syrah in 35:

That really burns me.