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PaladinPhil
6/19/2020 5:57:34 AM
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The wheels of government grind slowly.... Back in the beginning of the year there were a series of one day strikes and work actions. Government was paying out fees to parents to cover daycare expenses. I applied back in February(?). Got a response this morning finally and filled in the online application. Totally forgot about it.
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vxbush
6/19/2020 6:00:03 AM
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Morning, campers. In yesterday's morning thread, JCM wrote: There are as many as 45 people in slavery, sex trafficking and indentured servitude... TODAY. I am assuming you dropped some kind of measure after that 45. I'm assuming you meant 45 million. Is that correct?
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vxbush
6/19/2020 6:11:06 AM
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Today's disturbing news. Reminders of Alfred Kinsey, although I don't recall him having government support like this.
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Occasional Reader
6/19/2020 6:48:49 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 3:
Good Lord. Unfathomable evil. It was anyone surprised to read that this was dreamed by and supported by a socialist government?
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buzzsawmonkey
6/19/2020 6:56:14 AM
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For those who want to clear some of the "racial justice" claptrap out of their heads today, here's something that's just fun: Louis Jordan and the Tympany Five doing "Juneteenth Jamboree" in 1940.
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buzzsawmonkey
6/19/2020 7:03:04 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 3: There was a case in NYC about 30 years ago about a black single man named Kodzo Dobosu, who had been named "Father of the Year" by some organization or other, who had adopted/fostered some 35 "troubled youths," and had sexually abused at least ten of them. Why any agency would stick 35 kids with a single man wearing bracelets from wrist to elbow (who, if I recall correctly, also lived entirely on various forms of public assistance) remains a mystery.
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lucius septimius
6/19/2020 7:47:58 AM
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In #7 buzzsawmonkey said: Why any agency would stick 35 kids with a single man wearing bracelets from wrist to elbow (who, if I recall correctly, also lived entirely on various forms of public assistance) remains a mystery. Early application of Intersectionality points? Sounds like it. CPS is a cesspool and a reminder why the whole idea of replacing police with "social workers" is an extraordinarily bad idea.
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JCM
6/19/2020 8:02:28 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 2: Yeah, sorry. It's just irritates me no end. Our slavery ended a century and a half ago, in blood, while slavery is on going, but it our 7 generation old sin that matters. Floyd and Brooks matter. But the 50 people murdered in Chicago so far this month.... nobody know their names, except the grieving families. On my walk this morning, two churches with Black Lives Matter on their reader boards when scripture is clear there is no distinction between people. Classic revolutionary tactics. Get people to buy into group identities then pit them against each other.
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buzzsawmonkey
6/19/2020 8:07:10 AM
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In #9 JCM said: Classic revolutionary tactics. Get people to buy into group identities then pit them against each other. Let us recall the highly-symbolic opening scene of "The Wild Bunch," where a group of feral children are enjoying themselves by having a mass of ants pull down and devour a scorpion---and, when the carnage does not proceed quickly enough, they pile on some straw and twigs and set the whole thing, ants, scorpion, and all, on fire.
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JCM
6/19/2020 8:09:38 AM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 5: If the non-lethal fails? Check local laws for legality. It looks like a gun, therefore it could be problematic for carry and deployment.
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JCM
6/19/2020 8:12:50 AM
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Mayor Durkan has no consistency on takeover of private property 2017-Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan — a former U.S. Attorney — was absolutely in favor of the government moving in and forcefully ending the standoff. 2020-Lawfully gathering and expressing First Amendment rights, demanding we do better as a society, is not terrorism, it is patriotism.
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lucius septimius
6/19/2020 8:14:49 AM
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In #9 JCM said: Get people to buy into group identities then pit them against each other. That's part of it, but I also thing that this is in very large measure a sort of perverse version of American Exceptionalism. Although liberals loudly declaim that they oppose the notion, when it comes to slavery, something that's been endemic for most of human history, American slavery is somehow qualitatively different from any other form that has ever existed. And only one group of people -- American blacks -- have suffered from it. The experiences of any other non-American group are irrelevant to understanding slavery as a distinctly American phenomenon.
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Occasional Reader
6/19/2020 8:15:03 AM
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In #9 JCM said: Floyd and Brooks matter. But the 50 people murdered in Chicago so far this month.... nobody know their names, except the grieving families.
As I believe it was none other than Van Jones put it (file under "Unlikely Allies"): Why is it that "black lives matter" only when they are taken by white people?
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vxbush
6/19/2020 8:15:06 AM
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In #9 JCM said: Yeah, sorry.
It's just irritates me no end.
Our slavery ended a century and a half ago, in blood, while slavery is on going, but it our 7 generation old sin that matters.
Floyd and Brooks matter. But the 50 people murdered in Chicago so far this month.... nobody know their names, except the grieving families.
On my walk this morning, two churches with Black Lives Matter on their reader boards when scripture is clear there is no distinction between people.
Classic revolutionary tactics. Get people to buy into group identities then pit them against each other. No problem on the typo; I just wanted to make sure I understood your numbers correctly. I agree with the annoyance related to the churches who just blithely go along with this stuff. There is in some churches a strong interest in being "faith only" or being somewhat anti-intellectual because of the liberal excesses of the ivory tower. So you get a lot of people who mean well but end up being part of the useful idiot class. At least there *are* some churches who know about the slaves trades and are trying to do something about it.
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Occasional Reader
6/19/2020 8:18:01 AM
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In #11 JCM said: If the non-lethal fails?
Check local laws for legality.
It looks like a gun, therefore it could be problematic for carry and deployment. I agree on all of that. I'm wondering if there's any solid evidence here of effectiveness, as well. On that last point, I did reply to her, "if you're going to get this, get the flash orange + black color version, you want it to NOT look like a firearm to responding police."
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Occasional Reader
6/19/2020 8:20:43 AM
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In #9 JCM said: two churches with Black Lives Matter on their reader boards I've acquired a gold-colored Sharpie, and plan on adding "Do only..." at the beginning and "?" at the end of such phrases encountered during my evening strolls. (Though only on signs that have already been put up on public property, like the now omnipresent signs pasted up on telephone poles, etc., not on private displays like the church reader board.)
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Syrah
6/19/2020 8:33:02 AM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 5: It looks like a firearm.
It brings to mind the few occasions that police officers shot people with bullets when they though they were firing their taser. A can of pepper spray is less likely to instill muscle memory confusion.
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buzzsawmonkey
6/19/2020 8:34:17 AM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 20: Beautiful song, which I'd never heard. Her song "I'll Be Seeing You" tears me up every time.
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Occasional Reader
6/19/2020 8:39:36 AM
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In #21 Syrah said: A can of pepper spray is less likely to instill muscle memory confusion.
Well, in this particular case, not an issue, because she would not be carrying a firearm, nor does she have acquired muscle memory related to doing so.
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Occasional Reader
6/19/2020 12:11:04 PM
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In #24 JCM said: aged 88 OMG SEKRIT NEO-NOTSI KODE NUMBAH
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lucius septimius
6/19/2020 12:14:14 PM
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In #26 Occasional Reader said: OMG SEKRIT NEO-NOTSI KODE NUMBAH No wonder my ears are ringing.
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Occasional Reader
6/19/2020 2:14:37 PM
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Reply to doppelganglander in 28:
Thanks for the recommendation. It's been a while since I've read a novel in Spanish, that could be a candidate.
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buzzsawmonkey
6/19/2020 2:45:10 PM
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I've been getting a series of groveling emails from my looniversity, declaring that they've decreed Juneteenth a university holiday. Seems a little pointless, given that June 19th comes after the spring semester ends, but when you gotta pander, you gotta pander. What's annoying, however, is that after Grovel #1 they've followed it up with corrections. If you've gotta grovel, can't you get it right the first time?
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Occasional Reader
6/19/2020 2:46:55 PM
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I have had conversations with a frightening number of even relatively centrist "liberals" over the last few weeks, who have completely and utterly taken the Kool-Aid on all this "Black Lives Matter"crap. They are convinced that there's this epidemic of White Supremacist AmeriKKKa attacking black people. Reply to them with actual facts, and they will refuse to engage in any discussion on the matter. It's like a f**king invasion of the body-snatchers.
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Occasional Reader
6/19/2020 2:49:05 PM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 30:
And apparently there's a push now to make it a Federal holiday.
Tell ya what, if we're going to add a new Fed holiday, can we place it in, say, early April? It's currently a long, holiday-less stretch from Presidents Day to Memorial Day.
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lucius septimius
6/19/2020 2:56:01 PM
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I've been picking up followers lately on Twitter. I had two posts recently, one of which has been retweeted over and over again and has, at last count, something like 30,000 views. Another started a fight. It reminded me of when I used to go drinking with the hockey team. They would start fights. That's not to say they would get into fights. Rather, they would egg people on on who were obviously looking to fight with someone and get them fighting. Then they would coolly sit back swig their beer, and offer aesthetic commentary on the virtues and vices of the combatant's fighting style.
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doppelganglander
6/19/2020 2:56:56 PM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 29: It's a series of four novels, beginning with The Shadow of the Wind. I recommend reading them in the order of publication, though Ruiz Zafon said that was not necessary. The English translation is by Lucia Graves, daughter of Robert, the author of I, Claudius.
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buzzsawmonkey
6/19/2020 3:00:44 PM
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In #31 Occasional Reader said: I have had conversations with a frightening number of even relatively centrist "liberals" over the last few weeks, who have completely and utterly taken the Kool-Aid on all this "Black Lives Matter"crap. They are convinced that there's this epidemic of White Supremacist AmeriKKKa attacking black people. Reply to them with actual facts, and they will refuse to engage in any discussion on the matter. It's like a f**king invasion of the body-snatchers. As I have said before, when talking with Leftists they will always argue the Broad Principle when dealing with a specific incident, and always argue the Specific Incident when a broad principle is being discussed. Constant goal-post switching to preserve the Holy Narrative.
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Occasional Reader
6/19/2020 3:13:21 PM
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In #36 buzzsawmonkey said: they will always argue the Broad Principle "You can't live with 'em, you can't live without 'em"?
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buzzsawmonkey
6/19/2020 3:16:12 PM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 37: Not that "broad principle," dang it...
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